Anybody need 411's?

[GM]

some of the new dj stuff needs serious sound reinforcement down low. besides..the girls love big bass, dunno why..

Yeah, the small gig DIYers are beginning to follow the prosound guys with 18" or even 21" tapped horns capable of up to 140+ dB/m. Not sure I want to party with these guys, the one time SPL record holder Deep Purple concert at the Fabulous Fox forced me out onto the concourse and even through mostly closed doors it was unpleasant.

My personal SPL 'high' though that I enjoyed was pegging a 126 dB peak SLM at ~1/4 mile away from an Atlanta Rhythm Section outdoor concert where the hill we were standing on put us ~on axis with all the horn arrays and the valley between us and the stage created a fabulously 'rich'/powerful bass line that even 20 kW worth of Crown power couldn't overwhelm. Folks literally as far away as the next county complained, so combined with the high number of drug induced injuries, there's been no more major R&R concerts at Road Atlanta AFAIK.

Yeah, get their reproductive system jiggling at the right frequency and they go nuts. Perch them atop a pea padded hard tail 74 or pound them with four low tuned corner loaded 15"s playing their fave R&R at near live levels and let the fun n' games begin!

GM

[theophile]

Yeah, the small gig DIYers are beginning to follow the prosound guys with 18" or even 21" tapped horns capable of up to 140+ dB/m. Not sure I want to party with these guys, the one time SPL record holder Deep Purple concert at the Fabulous Fox forced me out onto the concourse and even through mostly closed doors it was unpleasant.

My personal SPL 'high' though that I enjoyed was pegging a 126 dB peak SLM at ~1/4 mile away from an Atlanta Rhythm Section outdoor concert where the hill we were standing on put us ~on axis with all the horn arrays and the valley between us and the stage created a fabulously 'rich'/powerful bass line that even 20 kW worth of Crown power couldn't overwhelm. Folks literally as far away as the next county complained, so combined with the high number of drug induced injuries, there's been no more major R&R concerts at Road Atlanta AFAIK.

Yeah, get their reproductive system jiggling at the right frequency and they go nuts. Perch them atop a pea padded hard tail 74 or pound them with four low tuned corner loaded 15"s playing their fave R&R at near live levels and let the fun n' games begin!

GM

They love pistons.

[GM]

They love pistons.

.......with long strokes.

[theophile]

.......with long strokes.

Supplied by long-range fuel tanks for all night driving.... :2thumbsup:

[bfish]

... Perch them atop a pea padded hard tail 74 ...

I was in that movie once, till a weak kickstand spring and an ill-timed bump made my kickstand foot hook the rail of the tracks we were crossing. Slammed down faster than Artie Johnson's tricycle on Laugh-In. Cut. That's a wrap. Thanks for coming folks...

ARS rocks! I've got "Georgia Rythym" on now.

Lay down the back beat, crank up the trust and give some... son.

[theophile]

I was in that movie once, till a weak kickstand spring and an ill-timed bump made our kickstand foot hook the rail of the tracks we were crossing. Slammed down faster than Artie Johnson's tricycle on Laugh-In. Cut. That's a wrap. Thanks for coming folks...

ARS rocks! I've got "Georgia Rythym" on now.

Lay down the back beat, crank up the trust and give some... son.

That's gotta hurt!

The only extenuating circumstance is that you probably slowed-down for the crossing.

[bfish]

Yeah, we were just creepin' over the tracks but it was still quite a jolt. Instant stop... the rail didn't have any give at all. (I'd always considered that old hardtail an irresistable force... that is, until it met an immovable object...)

Luckily all that was hurt was my pride. but it sure put the dampers on any plans I might have had for later that evening...

[GM]

I was in that movie once, till a weak kickstand spring and an ill-timed bump made my kickstand foot hook the rail of the tracks we were crossing.

ARS rocks! I've got "Georgia Rythym" on now.

Hurt! Being a true chopper, mine had no kickstand to trip me up, but I've ridden bikes with ones that its mounting tab could spin you like a top if you leaned over in a corner too much. Spring loaded pegs should be on every bike and touch down first.

Oh yeah! One of the best party bands ever! Paul's bass solo on 'Another Man's Woman' was the best I've heard on vinyl and at another level when live.

GM

[Altec Best]

or pound them with four low tuned corner loaded 15"s playing their fave R&R at near live levels and let the fun n' games begin!

Hey that sounds kinda familiar !!! :lollipop:

[RonSSS]

I bought a pair of the original 411's some time ago. Like 7 years.
They were the originals from the Barcelona era.
Inverted cloth surrounds. One was ok, the other was dead cause the cone had sunk.

I measured the T/S parameters on the good one and they matched the Altec published specs. Exactly!

I sent both to GPA for a rebuild.

When they came back I measured again. First thing I had to do was re-bend the cone leads because they hit the frame at full excursion. GPA dicked this up. Sorry, fact.

Mine were the first recones GPA had done on these. Bill told me this.

These did NOT measure like orig 411's. They measured more like 416's.

I made 8 cubic foot ducted port cabs for them as subs and they worked perfect.

I still have them and they were a perfect match to the 904-8A.

Altec made several variations of the 411's that they never talked about.

Inverted cloth surrounds...(these aren't mystic, I had a pair), Extroverted cloth surrounds followed by Extroverted foam surrounds.

I have a pair of 9846 speaks that I can rebuild. I have all the parts. But it seems that I ought to just cut them up and burn them cause there is no consensus on the woofs.

But the consensus here is that 411's suck no matter what, and I don't think you know the varaitions.

Ron